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Lucy was Liberal?  early humans  Yahoo, Lucy

In 1992, ... the Pope sought to rectify one of the church's most infamous wrongs toward science, the persecution of Galileo for asserting that the earth moved around the sun. New York Times file

 

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  Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani in GOP family values restroom with Larry Craig observing, tapping, and whatever.....

 

  • Yahoo "By studying the mitochondrial DNA of 979 domestic and wild cats from Europe, Asia and Africa the researchers concluded that the origins of the species — what O'Brien calls a feline Adam and Eve — developed between 130,000 and 160,000 years ago. Mitochondrial DNA is passed down from mother to child.  Domestication of cats began as long as 10,000 to 12,000 years ago, O'Brien said, as the earliest farmers domesticated grains and cereal. As that occurred, local wild cats adapted to hunting rodents in the grain and developed a relationship with humans.  The earliest archaeological evidence of cats and humans in association dates to 9,500 years ago in Cyprus."  
  • Scotsman A LEADING scientist has warned a new species of "humanzee," created from breeding apes with humans, could become a reality unless the government acts to stop scientists experimenting. ... In an interview with The Scotsman, Dr Calum MacKellar, director of research at the Scottish Council on Human Bioethics, warned the controversial draft Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill did not prevent human sperm being inseminated into animals. ... He said if a female chimpanzee was inseminated with human sperm the two species would be closely enough related that a hybrid could be born. ... He said scientists could possibly try to develop the new species to fill the demand for organ donors. ... Leading scientists say there is no reason why the two species could not breed, although they question why anyone would want to try such a technique. ... Other hybrid species already created include crossed tigers and lions and sheep and goats. 
  • Live Science "There have been many suggestions for how and why our hominid ancestors got out of the trees and started walking. The latest: a prehistoric shuffle driven by an empty belly.  ...  This proposal relies on a mathematical model to suggest that shuffling emerged as a precursor to walking, between 4 million and 7 million years ago, as a way of saving metabolic energy.  The idea is that some hungry primate was perhaps picking fruit, stood on its hind legs and reached up, and then rather than go back down on all fours, shuffled over to another bit of low-hanging fruit.  ...  "These are predictions other people can test," Kramer said. "You should rarely, if ever, see a chimp walking upright at longer distances. The flip side of this is if a chimp is going a short distance returning to all fours is not going to happen. You can see this in human babies learning to walk. If they are going between a couch and a coffee table, they are up on their feet. But if they are going a longer distance, they go down and crawl."
 
George Bush 'endorses' Intelligent Design?

 

Nation article on Dobson Reed, Abramoff BELOW

see NewsFollowUp.com 13 pages of 'Intelligent Design Jokes pages....and information on Ralph Reed, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell.....and there involvement.
 Early Humans    top
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  • Progressive Theology Science and the Bible.
  • Trinity Center  Human Origins
  • Talk Origins . Scientists group the more primitive remains into genera called Australopithecus, Paranthropus, Ardipithecus, and Sahelanthropus. More advanced remains are called Homo. Even within Homo scientists find many distinct species, including Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Homo. ergaster, Homo rudolfensis, Homo heidelbergensis, H. antecessor, Homo neanderthalensis, H. sapiens (modern humans), and the recently discovered Homo floresiensis, a diminutive specimen who survived until as recently as 13,000 years ago on the island of Flores in Indonesia. Modern humans overlapped chronologically with both Flores and Neanderthal individuals
  • Emory University, Michael C. Carlos Museum  ancient civilizations
  • Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
  • Physorg Neanderthal genome project, search terms, pharmacogenomics, gene expression assays, HapMap Coverage, Sequence Analysis
  • Science apes can plan ahead, report Nicholas J. Mulcahy and Josep Call of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.
  • Sciences Corp
  • Notes, gemone is the DNA code of a being.  chimpanzee genome has been accomplished.  
  • Washington University, Yahoo humans, neanderthal interbred
  • Yahoo, Lucy
  • Lucy's daughter Hamilton Spectator and National Geographic
  • Yahoo, Titan moon, comparisons to early Earth
  • Globe and Mail "Scientists link 17 living people to an aboriginal man found in glacier MURRAY LANGDON From Monday's Globe and Mail ... Scientists have found a direct link between the frozen remains of a man found in a glacier in northern B.C. and 17 people living in B.C., Yukon and Alaska. ... The news came at a symposium in Victoria this past weekend, focusing on Kwaday Dan Ts'inchi', an aboriginal man whose remains were found in 1999 by hunters in Tatshenshini-Alsek Park, which is in the traditional territory of the Champagne and Aishihik First Nations. ... "The connection to the people," said Al Mackie, an archaeologist on the project, "how they know his clan, how they know who his relatives are, that's amazing. You just don't get that in archaeology. It never happens." ... Kwaday Dan Ts'inchi' means Long Ago Person Found, and he's believed to have died some time between the years 1670 and 1850. His remains were revealed after a glacier started to recede. ... Since the discovery, scientists have been studying all facets of the man, including his clothes, tools, migratory patterns, even the contents of his stomach. But it's the DNA link to living people that has created the biggest stir."

  • If God created the world, why can't 'He' be a referee in all the infinite interpretations of what 'He' created?
  • Most racist groups in the US at least also believe in creationism.
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  • Austa.net What is the Political Program of the Creationist Movement.
  • Darwin.ws
  • DNA Ancestry Project
  • Notes: DNA, collect mouth swab, seal the sample in specimen container, send it to the lab, discover how your family has branched from your ancient forefathers and where they have scattered around the world.  DNA studies show people shared a common ancestor who lived in Africa between 50,000 and 200,000 years ago.  Each mutation links to a specific time and place in history.  
  • DWISE1's Creation / Evolution Quotes, Judah Christian students taken to Answers in Genesis, seminar.  
  • fossil from LiveScience
  • Geocities, Debunk CS
  • Ignorant Design
  • National Center for Science Education (NCSE) is a nonprofit organization working to defend the teaching of evolution against sectarian attack. The group is committed to defending the teaching of evolution.
  • New Yorker Intelligent Design, man created in the image of God
  • Panda's Thumb Distinguishing Rationalization from Logic. *
  • Progressive Theology Science and the Bible.
  • Religious Tolerance Conflicts and occasional agreements between science and religion
  • Skeptic's Annotated Bible four corners of the earth, absurdities, contradictions, science and history, family values, women, injustice, sex interpretation, cruelty and violence, prophecy, intolerance, homosexuality, good stuff
  • Talk Origins
  • Talk Origins, debunk Creationists*
  • Talk Origins . Scientists group the more primitive remains into genera called Australopithecus, Paranthropus, Ardipithecus, and Sahelanthropus. More advanced remains are called Homo. Even within Homo scientists find many distinct species, including Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Homo. ergaster, Homo rudolfensis, Homo heidelbergensis, H. antecessor, Homo neanderthalensis, H. sapiens (modern humans), and the recently discovered Homo floresiensis, a diminutive specimen who survived until as recently as 13,000 years ago on the island of Flores in Indonesia. Modern humans overlapped chronologically with both Flores and Neanderthal individuals
  • Trinity Center  Human Origins
  • Unitarian Universalist Church
  • Above:  "Ham was the second of Noah's three sons. His brothers were Shem and Japheth. Ham, along with his parents, his brothers and their wives, were on the Ark during the Great Flood. Ham was the father of Cush, Mizraim, Put and Canaan. One of the descendents of Ham's son Cush is Nimrod, who became the first of the world's kings. Ham's descendents spread abroad in many lands and nations, with many languages (Genesis 10:20). It is believed that most of Ham's descendents settled in Africa"  About Bible Prophecy
  • Wikipedia  To a Southern Slave Holder
  • Wikipedia Curse of Ham
 
Questions for Creationists
  • Which day were atoms and molecules...amino acids, DNA ...etc created?
  • When did mutations first happen?  Original sin?
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  • Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences  Nobel prizes, and Economics, Chemistry and Physics.
  • Space.com Viking spacecraft, Mars, 1976, discovered telltale evidence of microbes, but mass spectrometer scanning said no.
  • Astrobiologist
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  • Christian Coalition:  In an unprecedented show of arrogance against America and the United States Constitution, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said in a speech that she and her colleagues on the Supreme Court are going to increasingly rely on international law rather than looking to the U.S. Constitution as they make their decisions. Disregarding her oath of office that she will uphold the U.S. Constitution seems to be an impeachable offense. In the infamous "Lawrence v. Texas" sodomy case this year, Mrs. O'Connor said the majority on the court used European legal precedent in making their rogue decision. ........" The Christian Coalition of America calls on Congress to begin reining in these arrogant renegade judges, ......
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Dobson, Abramoff, Reed   BACK
Max Blumenthal Tue Mar 7, 4:53 PM ET

"He [Reed] got to Dobson who is going to mail Louisiana and get on the radio!" --email from Jack Abramoff to Michael Scanlon, 2/6/02

As the Jack Abramoff scandal unfolds, it is becoming increasingly clear how extensively he collaborated with the Christian right to advance his casino schemes. Ralph Reed was paid no less than $4 million by Abramoff and his Indian casino clients to serve as a liasion to the Christian right. Reed managed to lasso Focus on the Family President James Dobson into a series of campaigns to stamp out competition to Abramoff's clients. Though Senate subpeonaed emails seem to confirm that Dobson was manipulated by Reed and Abramoff, he and his employees have repeatedly claimed that his activism against rivals to Abramoff's clients was a complete coincidence.

While I wrote about this for the Nation and Media Matters, there has been very little mainstream press interest on Dobson's role in Abramoff's schemes. So far, some of the best -- and most adversarial -- reporting on the Abramoff/Reed/Dobson saga is coming from the Christian media, namely from Marvin Olasky's World Magazine. As the former welfare guru to Gov. George W. Bush, Olasky coined the phrase, "compassionate conservatism." When Bush moved into the White House, he became the intellectual author of the Faith Based Initiative. Olasky's World Magazine is one of the largest evangelical publications in the country.

On February 4, World published a critical expose of Dobson's role in a 2002 Abramoff campaign to stop expansion of competition to his client, the Coushattas. A World reporter grilled Focus on the Family's Tom Minnery about Dobson's involvement. Minnery responded incredulously that Abramoff was "trying to take credit for" what Focus was supposedly already doing in Louisiana. He refused to criticize Reed, even though Reed clearly manipulated Dobson.

Two weeks later, Minnery and Dobson took to the airwaves in an attempt to defuse the conflict. Minnery claimed once again that "as it happens, we, Focus on the Family, we're fighting this new Indian casino in Louisiana at the very same time. Not because Ralph Reed asked us. Not because Jack Abramoff asked us." And he once again refused to criticize Reed. In fact, Minnery defended Reed, calling him "A wounded brother," who "regretted what he did, that he wouldn't do it again, and realizes that it was wrong." Minnery went on to attack Olasky's World:

"They [World] have a reporter who wanted me to dump on ralph reed because of Jack Abramoff. I wouldn't do it. So in the story they wrote, the made it seem like I was covering up for Ralph. they terribly misused the interview I gave them, and in the letter I wrote them, I tried to set the record straight. They refused to print it. So maybe I'm overreacting. But it is tough when your friends criticize you for something that shouldn't be."

Maybe Minnery was overreacting. Or maybe he was covering up for his old buddy Reed. In a follow-up piece for World, Olasky presented several Senate-subpeonaed emails between Abramoff and Reed showing Focus on the Family's involvement in their schemes. Olasky then suggested in as subtle a fashion as possible that Dobson and co. should come forward with the full story: "We hope that Focus on the Family will join us in insisting that Mr. Reed stop dodging and start explaining why his emails to Jack Abramoff stated that he was negotiating with Focus. Our sense is that Dr. Dobson is telling the truth, and our logical conclusion is that someone else was not."

Writing on his blog, Olasky had harsher words for Reed: "If Reed had been transparent, he would have faced disagreement but would not now be facing disgrace. He has shamed the evangelical community by providing evidence for the generally-untrue stereotype that evangelicals are easily-manipulated and that evangelical leaders are using moral issues to line their own pockets."

My sense is that this rift will deepen in the coming weeks as the mainstream press wakes up to its importance. Meanwhile, Focus on the Family will undoubtedly continue its face-saving effort, even if it means misleading both its supporters and the press. Dobson has been doing that for decades. Why should he stop now?

 

 

 

Karen Armstrong

source: Transcript from Bill Moyers interview.

Fundamentalist Christian View, Evolution / Racism, Curse of Ham
Biblical ancestry of Blacks?
The Bible teaches that the Black (or Negro) people are descendants of Ham (who was one of the three sons of Noah). Obviously, Noah and his three sons Ham, Shem, and Japeth each carried the genes for producing several races since ultimately all the races of mankind had descended from them. Genetically, it was possible for Noah and his three sons to carry the genes for producing different races just as it is genetically possible today, for example, for a person of European origin to carry genes for producing children with different color hair. The principle is the same. Although you and I today may not possess genes for producing different races of people, Noah and his three sons Ham, Shem, and Japeth did possess such genes. According to the Bible the ancient Egyptians were descended from Ham through the line of Mizraim. Ham had four sons: Cush, Mizraim, Phut, and Canaan (Genesis 10:6). The name "Mizraim" is the original name given for Egypt in the Hebrew Old Testament. Many Bibles will have a footnote next to the name "Mizraim" explaining that it means "Egypt." The name "Egypt" itself actually comes to us from the Greeks who gave the Land that name (i.e. "Aegyptos" from the Greek). In addition to the name "Mizraim," the ancient Egyptians also referred to their land as "Kemet" which means "Land of the Blacks." Western historians, however, say that the word "Kemet" refers to the color of the soil of the land rather than its people. But, the word "Kemet" is actually an ethnic term being a derivative of the word "Khem" (Cham or Ham) which means "burnt" or "black." Ham, who was one of the three sons of Noah and the direct ancestor of the Egyptians, was black. The Bible, in the Old Testament, repeatedly refers to Egypt as the "Land of Ham" (i.e., Psalm 105:23, 27; 106:22). Regarding the ancient Egyptians, there is also considerable historical evidence, aside from the Holy Bible, that they were of Black or Negro origin. Even today the true Egyptian is not to be found in the cities but in the country sides and farmlands of Egypt. Most of the Egyptians in the cities carry a mixed ancestry of European and Asian, but mostly Asian from the immigration and invasions of various people into Egypt throughout the centuries. Very few people realize that Cleopatra was of Greek origin because the Greeks once ruled Egypt and she was descended from one of those Greek rulers. The true Egyptian found in the countryside, however, has dark brown to black skin and very pronounced Negro features. This is particularly true the further south one travels in Egypt. It was from the south that the original pharaohs and the people of Egypt settled the land. The original rulers and builders of Egyptian civilization were of completely Black or Negro origin.
Mormons and Negro ancestry Signature Books Library full article
 ... the sons of Canaan (or Ham) whom Joseph Smith identified with the Negro were cursed with servitude by a "decree of Jehovah," and that curse was "not yet taken off the sons of Canaan, neither will be until it is affected by as great power as caused it to come ... and those who are determined to pursue a course which shows an opposition ... against the designs of the Lord, will learn ... that God can do his work without the aid of those who are not dictated by his counsel...."  —Fifth, there were several other biblical precedents for slavery (in the histories of Abraham, Leviticus, Ephesians, Timothy).
Ham's descendents settled in Africa  About Bible Prophecy
Ham was the second of Noah's three sons. His brothers were Shem and Japheth. Ham, along with his parents, his brothers and their wives, were on the Ark during the Great Flood. Ham was the father of Cush, Mizraim, Put and Canaan. One of the descendents of Ham's son Cush is Nimrod, who became the first of the world's kings. Ham's descendents spread abroad in many lands and nations, with many languages (Genesis 10:20). It is believed that most of Ham's descendents settled in Africa
Catholic view of Ham (Cham) Blacks / Slavery  NewAdvent
(A.V. Ham). Son of Noe and progenitor of one of the three great races of men whose ethnographical table is given by Genesis 10. Wherever the three sons of Noe are enumerated in the Bible, Cham is placed between Sem and Japhet. We may gather, however, from Genesis 9:24 that this enumeration is not based on their age, since Cham is there spoken of as the "younger son" of Noe, as compared, apparently, with both his brothers. The only incident of the life of Cham after the deluge, which is recorded in the Bible, is that related in Genesis 9:21-24. Cham sees his father under the influence of wine lying naked in his tent. He tells his brothers, who respectfully cover the patriarch. The sequel makes it plain that Cham was, on this occasion, guilty of great irreverence. For when Noe hears of the conduct of his sons he blesses Shem and Japhet, with their posterity, and he pronounces a curse, not on Cham, but on his son Chanaan and his descendants, predicting that they will be the servants of their bretheren. (For a fuller treatment of this point see Chanaan, Chanaanites.) and Cana, Canaanites
Original Dishonor: Noah’s Curse and the Southern Defense of Slavery  Journal of Southern Religion
Another explanation for the general failure of scholars to explore connections between southern honor and proslavery interpretations of Genesis 9 is the assumption that those who discover in the Bible a justification for slavery must be of limited intelligence, grave foolishness, or profound insincerity. This assumption is widespread, even though it contradicts several facts. For instance, antebellum advocates of the curse included well-trained and respected professionals, including physicians, lawyers, politicians, clergymen and professors; these men were, relatively speaking, well-educated; and while it is impossible to ascertain their motives in writing about the curse, they appear as sincere on this topic as on the others they discussed.