Alan Premel, CIA, Carnaby

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Houston Chronicle "If one believes the various posts about him, Premel is a former CIA wunderkind who won the agency's highest award for valor before a nasty separation and lawsuit that netted him a multimillion dollar settlement." more

2011, Israel's nuclear smuggling network was key element in Carnaby murder  more

Barstool magazine, Houston, Alan Premel, see the September cover.

• Notes:  One of the CIA's former counter-terrorism chiefs and pioneers in covert operations, Roland Carnaby retires.   ...   In the past few months, Mr. Carnaby, who has led a private intelligence firm in Houston, Texas has been delegating more and more daily responsibilities to his lieutenants and is completing his succession planning, say people familiar with the matter. A decision about his departure could come within weeks, though the situation remains fluid, say these people.   ...   Alan Premel, 32 years old, whom CIA recruited in 1997 and whom Carnaby personally recruited in 2002 to work with the private intelligence firm in Houston has emerged as the leading candidate to succeed him, added these people. A spokesperson familiar with the retirement plans stated that Premel and his current worries with the US Senate over allegations and ties to the CIA's Rendition program and his recent resignation from CIA amid a slew of disclosure cases pulls him out of the race for President and chief of such a power position within the intelligence community.   ...   The departure of Mr. Carnaby, 52, would mean the loss of CIA's most experienced, talented and high profile clandestine officers in management. Few executives who helped pioneer the commercialization of private intelligence and private security firms have remained on top for as long, except for some who can also claim founder titles, such as Patriot Oil, and Pan-American Shipping and Consulting Group.   ...  

• Swanshadow comment: "This Laura Madden is really making a name for herself. She is dating, boyfriend, Alan Premel a former CIA officer, former professional track athlete, comic artist. How did a porn star end up with a guy like Premel? He has spoke in front of Congress twice. Once in a closed session on Intelligence matters and the second for Christians in the Middle East. Assyrian Christians and Philangists along with actress Rosie-Malek Yonan. He has been linked and already dated Paris Hilton and Rachel McAdams from the movie 'the Notebook'. She might be in this for the money, porn that is. Or she might be just in it for the sex and the fame. Well, she picked the right guy. Alan Premel is connected to Hollywood and has overseen script writing on two major spy movies and does movie reviews. He is also known as the CIA's former Covert Comic. He could turn this bad porn image into a good one. Premel does a lot of philanthropy and community charity projects for children. He started Intelligence Kids in 2003 when Johnny Michael Spann, former CIA officer was killed in Afghanistan. I feel sorry for him for his image which is obviously going to be run through the mud after dating her."

• 2007 - Autumn 2007  Laura Madden is out of porn. Becomes a Christian and is cleaning up her life.  See Timeline, Alan Premel   We constructed this pic to support the no porn pic.  The first two are widely circulated on the net.  The third is not.  They are all Laura Madden.

• Lawsuit by Young Jewish Attorney Charges Anti-Semitism at CIA-Source Says "They're Out of Control;" ADL Offers Sensitivity-Training  5/8/2008 JonathanPollard.org: Ciraslki helped legitimize Premel in an NBC interview - "Mr. Ciralsky's case is based on a CIA document which speaks of "rich Jewish persons and friends from college." Supporting Likud? The document says Mr. Ciralsky has ties to and supports the Likud party of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and adds "He may not be telling more because it makes him and his family appear as fanatic supporters of the hard-line Likud party-and he does not want to be portrayed as such." ...According to a report by Seth Gitell in the Forward, the Ciralsky case has now deteriorated to a semantic brawl between Mr. Sher and Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League. According to the Forward, after 14 years of refusing to help Jonathan Pollard because he did not believe anti-Semitism played a role in his case, Mr. Foxman has recognized that the CIA is chock-full of "discrimination, prejudice, and anti-Semitism." But, Mr. Sher said, Mr. Foxman has recognized these failings in the agency only because the CIA is now willing to pay the ADL for the organization's "sensitivity training."  N4042J N4222A N439CA N4489A N6161Q N713M N7241E N7369S N861CM N9216Q N933PB N960BW N961BW N962BW N962BW
  CIA Employee, Ciralsky, Claims Agency Harrased Him Over 'Israel Ties'  5/8/2008 JonathanPollard.org: Was there an Israeli angle to the neocon hit on Carnaby? Ciralski helped establish Premel as legitimate.  Adam Ciralsky on "DarkSide" Ops and Alan Premel  5/8/2008 NBC: by Adam Ciralsky, 9/25/07 - "I served at CIA in a legal capacity and i wanted to ask a former CIA officer their take on it. So we turned to recently resigned CIA former clandestine service officer and analytical red cell analyst Alan Premel for his input on the buzz surrounding bin Laden."  The Adam Ciralsky and David Tenenbaum Cases  5/8/2008 JonathanPollard.org: Ciralsky interviewed Alan Premel who has been linked to Carnaby.   "The following articles detail the case of Adam Ciralsky, a former CIA employee, and David Tenenbaum, a U. S. army engineer, both of whom were singled out for investigation as potential spies for Israel because of their religion."

• TennTimes In the end it looks like Alan Premel might have won out. He has 3 private companies, all of which are tied linked and created around the Intelligence Community and he receives annual checks from CIA after a tumultuous 4 year long lawsuit against CIA. Where CIA eventually settled out of court. Premel, has taken the money and invested $30 million in Intelligence Shareholder Stock through the CIA's stock IQT and has solidified himself as an investor and philanthropist in Houston and Washington DC for numerous charitable causes. Alan Premel continues to run Aspyr Global Intelligence in a small suburb outside of Houston Texas.  

• Posted By: bishop2pawn @ 02/18/2008 2:19:41 AM Comment: I closely followed rendition through the news over the past year and just recently watched a CIA officer, Alan Premel on Geraldo at large tonight after learning about Kosovo's independence. After checking on this man i read reports about his ties to rendition and coming out of the CIA this past year where even he was indicted on rendition and had to speak before Congress.. Rendition at the heart of it after all the propaganda, people have to realize that it was real. It happened and at the same time there was a war going on. People on all sides of war make mistakes. However, i think that if men were wrongfully imprisoned i think that they should have the governments involved apologize. But then when i think about it. If the governments apologize then it exposes sexret programs. So what are agencies like the CIA to do? I am appreciative of any type of medium who wants to take on issues of war or against war. With rendition, so much of it is going to be against the program because so much is not known about it. We have to entrust the testimonies of individuals such as CIA officers coming out now to get their takes on it. Only problem is, they cant talk about it. I look forward to seeing the truths coming out 20 years from now when people start talking.  N964BW N965BW N967BW N968BW N989BW

• NiqueHappy  "At the premier Premel and Witherspoon did not arrive together. Alan Premel arrived with socialite Allyson Ivey Macarthur, a granddaughter of general douglas macarthur. The two arrived at the premier and were reported talking with her later in the evening" Rendition premiere.  (again wrong information, according to our sources, Allyson Ivey Macarthur is not related to the famous general)

• CBS News You may not have heard the term "rendition," at least not the way the Central Intelligence Agency uses it. But renditions have become one of the most important secret weapons in the war on terror.  In recent years, well over 100 people have disappeared or been "rendered" all around the world. Witnesses tell the same story: masked men in an unmarked jet seize their target, cut off his clothes, put him in a blindfold and jumpsuit, tranquilize him and fly him away.   ...   They're describing U.S. agents collaring terrorism suspects. Some notorious terrorists such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, the mastermind of 9/11, were rendered this way.   ...    But as Correspondent Scott Pelley reports, it's happening to many others. Some are taken to prisons infamous for torture. And a few may have been rendered by mistake.

• AFIO Here are the officers for the 2007-2008 Lt. Col. William Francis Buckley Chapter of the AFIO (Houston). Roland V. Carnaby  rolandcarnaby@afiohouston.com, President; Alfred G. Platt fredplatt@afiohouston.com, Vice President; Peter C. Jackson peterjackson@afiohouston.com, Secretary; Ronald L. Gelner ronaldgelner@afiohouston.com, Treasurer; Michael C. Bechaud michaelbechaud@afiohouston.com Director of Security ... About AFIO-Houston Chapter The AFIO Houston Chapter is named in honor of: Lt. Col. William Francis Buckley, CIA Officer and American Hero Killed in the Line of Duty, 1985 ... We are mindful and appreciative of his sacrifice And grateful for his life of service and honor. AFIO-Houston is a rapidly growing chapter whose members include distinguished members of the Intelligence Community, political leaders, as well as area business and civic leaders. ... The chapter was formed about 20 years ago by the late CIA Officer Fred Redell. After a period of inactivity, we have renewed our mission under the leadership of AFIO-Houston President Roland V. Carnaby and his team (see the "Officers" page for more info).

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• Beyond Secrecy, Aspyr Global  A battle hardened and battle tested CIA war hero from a little known covert CIA war in the Balkans against the Chechens. Premel emerged as a hero and recipient of the CIA's highest honors in including The Legion of Merit Medal, The Distinguished Intelligence Cross, and the Intelligence Star. Premel, a victim of discrimination at CIA in 2001 sued the Central Intelligence Agency for $41 million dollars and was awarded an undisclosed amount in late 2005.    file
• Black Voter Net
• Center for Constitutional Rights.
• Center for Public Integrity, 
• CounterPunch personal account, rendition, Maher Arar, Letelier-Moffitt International Human Rights Award, JFK interrogation, Palestine, Syria, taken to Metropolitan Detention Center, told INS not bound by Geneva Convention, flew to Maine, Rome, Jordan, returned to Canada, tortured, the cell was a grave, hear other prisoners being tortured, 
• Cryptogon Chronicle article copies, Pearland, Carnaby
• Deep Journal, 
• Grand Strategy  file, Rahm Emanuel, five feet six inches, foul mouth, jew
• LouMinati  
• Rumormill News   timeline
• Salon
• WMR Roland Carnaby
• notes: Aero Contractors, Ltd.; Atlas Air, Inc.; Aviation Specialties, Inc.; Berry Aviation, Inc.; Centurion Aviation Services, Inc.; Crowell Aviation Technologies, Inc.; Devon Holding & Leasing, Inc. ; Eastern Shore Holdings, Inc.; Gemini Air Cargo, Inc. Phoenix Air Group, Inc.; Polar Air Cargo, Inc.; Premier Executive Transport Service; Prescott Support Company ; Presidential Airways, Inc.; Presidential Airways,; Rapid Air Trans, Inc.; Richmor Aviation, Inc.; Southern Air, Inc.; Stevens Express Leasing, Inc. Tepper Aviation, Inc.

• AFIO Association of Former Intelligence Officers
• European Court of Human Rights,  European Union Human Rights Commission, Poland, Romania, Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Croatia.
• Israel
• Manta, business listings, Intelligence Kids, Alan Premel
• Pimpin Turtle CIA rendition plane crashes with 3.2 tons cocaine, Colombia tail number  On June 10, 2006, WMR reported that the N987SA Grumman G-1159, Gulfstream II, was operated by S/A Holdings LLC and had been involved in the renditioning of prisoners to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
• Civilian Aircraft Landing Permits CALPs, 
• Hillary Clinton, Democratic Leadership Council, flew on aircraft once linked to rendition, CIA, organized crime, N987SA, N216RR, 
• TennTimes The disclosure of Rendition would make more sense to why there has been so much friction and uproar in the past few months within the clandestine services.

• Air Rutter, Kislin, Hillary Clinton, black sites, 
• Atlas Aviation, Michael Chowdry, sister company Polar Air, rendition, Azima, Iran Contra shipments, N234FA, 9G-FIA N345FA, 
• Click2Houston
• Campus Crusade for Christ, Religious zealots, war profiteers, neo-con opportunists, N70766, Pactec, humanitarian organization, 
• Department of Homeland Security, Chertoff
• Emanuel, Rahm official website
• Evangelical Foreign Missions Association,
• FBI Central American Mission,
• Giuliani, 
• Homeland Security Watch  February 8, 2006 John Russack’s departure: the full story Filed under: Intelligence and Info-Sharing — by Christian Beckner on February 8, 2006 I wrote a couple of weeks ago about the departure of John Russack, program manager for the Information Sharing Environment (ISE) initiative at the DNI
• Houston Chronicle   Rendition, the movie, Reese Witherspoon
• Interdenominational Foreign Mission Association
• The Irgun blew up buildings and killed hundreds of innocent people in order to achieve the goals of militant Zionism in occupied Palestine."
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• Mission Aviation Fellowship, Central America, cover
• MyFox Houston I knew Chase Suspect by a Different Name  file
• Operation Blessing, Pat Robertson, cover
• Securities and Exchange Commission EDGAR database, 
• Trans World Radio
• World Vision

• RumorMill News Pollard is being held is because he uncovered a secret United States operation called the “Level Battlefield Doctrine.”  To Northrup, the term “level battlefield” remains a benign epithet masking he policy’s truest intentions. The name is akin, Northrup said, to the term “incident at altitude” used to describe a crowded jetliner blowing up in mid-air. The Level Battlefield Doctrine’s ramifications are anything but benign. However, it has become the basis of American Middle Eastern policy, all be it, a secret one.  The Level Battlefield Doctrine states that Israel is responsible for the tensions that exist in the Middle East. Under this policy, the United States has developed a “back door” relationship with middle eastern countries supplying them with weapons in return for oil.   Jonathon Pollard
•  History Commons "Human rights groups claim that the US is operating “floating prisons” as detention facilities for prisoners taken in the “war on terror.” The groups claim that the US is keeping prisoners aboard ships such as the USS Ashland, the USS Bataan, and the USS Peleliu (see December 27, 2001), and say that the Americans refuse to admit to the existence of such detainees. The human rights group Reprieve has asked that the US list the names and whereabouts of such “ghost detainees” held aboard US vessels. The existence of the detainees has come to light from a number of sources, including statements from US military officials, information provided by the Council of Europe and other parliamentary bodies, and prisoner testimonies (see June 2, 2008). Details of Detentions - Reprieve says the US has used as many as 17 ships as “floating prisons” since 2001. While aboard, the prisoners are interrogated, then rendered to undisclosed locations. Fifteen of those ships may have operated around the British territory of Diego Garcia, which hosts a large British-American military base (see July 27, 1971-May 26, 1973 and After February 7, 2002). According to information obtained by Reprieve, in early 2007, the Ashland was involved in the detention and rendering of over 100 individuals abducted by Somali, Kenyan, and Ethiopian forces during an upsurge of fighting in Somalia, and then interrogated by FBI and CIA agents. Those individuals have now disappeared, but many are believed to be held in prisons in Kenya, Somalia, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Guantanamo Bay, among other possible sites. One prisoner released from Guantanamo has retold the account of a fellow inmate’s detention: “[H]e was in the cage next to me. He told me that there were about 50 other people on the ship. They were all closed off in the bottom of the ship. The prisoner commented to me that it was like something you see on TV. The people held on the ship were beaten even more severely than in Guantanamo.” Clive Stafford Smith, Reprieve’s legal director, says the US military “choose ships to try to keep their misconduct as far as possible from the prying eyes of the media and lawyers. We will eventually reunite these ghost prisoners with their legal rights.… By its own admission, the US government is currently detaining at least 26,000 people without trial in secret prisons, and information suggests up to 80,000 have been ‘through the system’ since 2001 (see November 17, 2005). The US government must show a commitment to rights and basic humanity by immediately revealing who these people are, where they are, and what has been done to them.” British Officials Ask for Accountability - Andrew Tyrie, the Conservative MP who chairs the all-party parliamentary group on extraordinary rendition, says both the US and British governments must own up to their practices of rendition and “ghost detainees.” “Little by little, the truth is coming out on extraordinary rendition,” he says. “The rest will come, in time. Better for governments to be candid now, rather than later. Greater transparency will provide increased confidence that President Bush’s departure from justice and the rule of law in the aftermath of September 11 is being reversed, and can help to win back the confidence of moderate Muslim communities, whose support is crucial in tackling dangerous extremism.” Tyrie has requested that an investigation into the use of Diego Garcia as a rendition refueling stop be undertaken (see June 2, 2008). Liberal Democrat MP Edward Davey adds: “If the Bush administration is using British territories to aid and abet illegal state abduction, it would amount to a huge breach of trust with the British government. Ministers must make absolutely clear that they would not support such illegal activity, either directly or indirectly.” A US Naval spokesman says that none of its vessels have “detention facilities,” but admits that some detainees had been put on ships “for a few days” during their initial days of detention. He refuses to comment on reports that US Naval vessels stationed in or near Diego Garcia had been used as “prison ships.” [Guardian, 6/2/2008] Entity Tags: Council of Europe, Andrew Tyrie, Central Intelligence Agency, Clive Stafford Smith, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Edward Davey, Reprieve Timeline Tags: Torture in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere"
• In 2004 a Sky Way Aircraft Beechcraft BE-200, registration N391SA, flying under the false registration of N168D, was confiscated by the Venezuelan government after flying from Caracas Charallave airport to Santiago Marino airport on Margarita island. FAA records indicate that Sky Way's office of record was 341 8th Ave. SE # 3C, St. Petersburg, Florida. The FAA registration database also states, "N391SA has multiple records" in addition to its status as being "exported" to Venezuela and, thus, "de-registered" with the FAA. After the revelations about CIA rendition flights and proprietary companies, it was discovered that N168D was the tail number for a Casa CN-235-300 registered to Devon Holding and Leasing of Lexington, North Carolina. WMR
• WMR, CIA, rendition, aircraft, crash landing, Gulfstream II, Tikokob, Yucatan, Mexican airspace, N987SA, metric tons of cocaine on board the plane, one passenger arrested, Donna Blue Aircraft, Florida, 33073, Grumman G-1159, S/A Holdings LLC, Guantanamo Bay rendition flights, INTERPOL, DC-9, Caracas, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, N900SA, Ciudad del Carmen, Campeche state, U.S. Transportation Security Administration, Sky Way Aircraft-Protection of America's Skies, Gander NF, Paris Le Bourget, Shannon, Ireland,
• Bush’s Pentagon Papers, The Urge to Confess, By Tom Engelhardt, They can’t help themselves. They want to confess. How else to explain the torture memorandums that continue to flow out of the inner sancta of this administration, the most recent of which were evidently leaked to the New York Times. Those two, from the Alberto Gonzales Justice Department, were written in 2005 and recommitted the administration to the torture techniques it had been pushing for years. As the Times noted, the first of those memorandums, from February of that year, was “an expansive endorsement of the harshest interrogation techniques ever used by the Central Intelligence Agency.” The second “secret opinion” was issued as Congress moved to outlaw “cruel, inhuman, and degrading” treatment (not that such acts weren’t already against U.S. and international law). It brazenly “declared that none of the C.I.A. interrogation methods violated that standard”; and, the Times assured us, “the 2005 Justice Department opinions remain in effect, and their legal conclusions have been confirmed by several more recent memorandums.” All of these memorandums, in turn, were written years after John Yoo’s infamous “torture memo” of August 2002 and a host of other grim documents on detention, torture, and interrogation had already been leaked to the public, along with graphic FBI emailed observations of torture and abuse at Guantanamo, those “screen savers” from Abu Ghraib, and so much other incriminating evidence.  and see N675BC, Costa Rica, Grand Cayman, and N500ND, World Jet, Delaware, 
• DandelionSalad comments  claims of secret cia jail for terror suspects on british island to be investigated by Ian Cobain and Richard Norton Taylor
• Daily Newscaster The conviction of Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard in 1986 exposed the existence of a ring of U.S. officials spying for Israeli intelligence. Pollard was found guilty of passing secret documents to his Israeli handlers, what caused U.S. Intelligence agencies the most concern was that Pollard new document titles and serial numbers that he did not have the necessary security clearance to access. Only someone with the highest level clearance could have passed this information to mole Pollard.  ...   Fast forward to May 7th, 1997 when a call was intercepted by the National Security Agency between an Israeli embassy official and the head of Israeli intelligence that revealed the presence of a top-level mole in the U.S. government. The Israeli diplomat was eager to gain access to a specific communication between Secretary of State Warren Christopher and Yasser Arafat. The Israeli diplomat asked the Mossad chief, Danny Yatom to get the information using their high level operative in the U.S. government code named “Mega,” Yatom scolded the diplomat saying, “This is not something we use Mega for.”  ...  Rahm Emanuel has the right connections in Washington D. C. and deep personal and family ties to the nation state of Israel. During the Clinton presidency he was a close personal advisor to Bill Clinton holding top secret clearance and able to access virtually any document or secret held by the United States.  

• Premel / Carnaby file  source
• Tue, 04/29/2008 - 16:57 — imanon (not verified) More on the houston police shooting: google for "Alan Premel roland carnaby", there's only one page returned in the search. that page is gone, so click the google cache link. The man that was killed by Houston police was a partner of the CIA agent that recently won many millions in a recent lawsuit against the CIA.

• comments: When you start considering men who have worked in covert operations  you are dealing with a whole other set of rules, laws and policies change. Verifying someone like Carnaby and Premel is going to be next to impossible.   But if you a considering them as an intelligence officer, an intelligence analyst and within the definitions of a 'Known Intelligence Officer', it is very possible. You verify them through other agencies within the IC (Intelligence Community)? It is very possible to peg them and who they are through certifications, clearances and their journeys through different offices.  However, when you start getting into black areas, not gray areas, but black areas such as covert action you start to get a feel of what you are up against.  

  One of the most common misnomers on CIA is that it is an Intelligence Agency. That may be true in some aspects of the tradecraft and certain abilities CIA has. It does collect and disseminate raw and actionable Intelligence from the field.  But what the CIA really is and their role is that of a covert action agency. Things are not just done in secrecy but are done in absolute secrecy and absolute darkness.
   
  Carnaby and Premel types are rare cases, men who are hired through the IC to work as contractors outside the scope and definition of regular contractors. They are set up through private firms and out of the reach of existing regulations and laws. So when they have someone like Carnaby and Premel who are not only privately outed they are also discredited by government controlled news medias. Its standard procedure.  Carnaby's case is very similar to Premel's in that they both worked with each other hand in hand for years but the cases will vary so greatly in the simple fact that one man was killed and the other was left alive. So in Premel's case, we have a live officer to look at. You can see how they react, manuever, and evade things publicly. You have the liberty to not only verify a background but you can follow them and keep a check on them where they go from now on. With Carnaby it ended and everything can be blacked out. With Premel, who is a young-man still in his early 30's, this man has to continue living, working. 
   
  Even before the death it was well documented that there was a massive disinformation campaign against the two of them.  The material that surfaced was that  of  someone deliberately trying to discredit both of them.  Postings and anonymous content was so inaccurate it could have only have been written to discredit.  Both men lived remarkable lives and even if only some of the material is verifiable as true.  But the consistency and sheer weight of it all was just in  my opinion outrageous.  So when we consider this case are we considering the fact that we are dealing with  professional disclaimers?  Distributing  second and third hand information,  gleaned from professional disinformation specialists (CIA and others.) Such disinformation is being fed to  these dupes and stooges with the aim of discrediting legitimate whistleblowers and contaminating the truthful, factual information being exposed.
   
  For those who have followed this case from the beginning you have seen stories posted and retracted in the same days.  We've seen the police say Carnaby died of bleeding on the street one day to  him  dying in an ambulance the next, only to find out weeks later that he died in the hospital. So the public is left with serious questions about what is really going on.  We saw reports tell us  that he was shot three times, then it was one shot, then it finally rested upon a story which had two officers shooting but only one bullet entering Carnaby in the back and shattering his spinal column.
   
  So the next questions would fall on the bizarre course of events surrounding the autopsy.  We know now, almost six  months after the death that there was no autopsy performed.  We heard that Carnaby's widow had  requested to have the autopsy filmed.  Her request was denied despite a Texas law that requires it if the spouse requests it.  It was denied.  A second request was made by the Texas Rangers to have the autopsy filmed and the Rangers cited that they did not trust the FBI in their inquiries, outcomes and the autopsy.  It was denied. The FBI, then pushed for the autopsy to be filmed and they were also denied.  And up until the final day of the autopsy two days after Carnaby was slain, an independent assassination team was brought in to investigate.  The team immediately called it an assassination based on the first hand evidence and series of events.
                                                               
  And even the independent assassination team was denied.  At this time, the federal judge presiding over the case wanted it to be filmed and it was denied. What was the secret behind the autopsy?  Some speculated that the man was still alive. Some questioned the police in a cover-up and used this as first hand evidence that they had lied about how many times Carnaby was shot and where he was shot. The disinformation campaign in the first days was so bad and outrageous that some were saying that Carnaby could have been shot before exiting the car.  And with the disinformation being so blatant it made many of us question if Carnaby himself had something he was going to expose.  A possible crime or corruption.  When you study cases of real whistleblowers who sound off on corruption and cases such as this put their lives on the line.  A whistleblower defies the liars and crooks in government; and as a result of exposing truthful, accurate, factual information (including names of perpetrators) usually become high-profile targets of the government agencies they expose.
   
  This does not mean to run off and start calling Carnaby a whistleblower.  Something obviously is wrong with this case. There was an obvious case to out and publicly draw attention to these two individuals in the summer of 2007. The majority of the slanderous and damaging articles drew attention to Premel.  So far in the aftermath of the assassination on Carnaby,  Premel has been the target of a dozen federal and state agencies. The simple fact that Premel, when first arrested by authorities had credentials on him.  If he was not a special contracted representative of any government office then why was he not put away in a federal prison for 25 years or longer for impersonating a federal officer.

  And Premel, seems to have a lot to say but has been personally gagged by his own court processes and two lawyers representing him. Carnaby's first call after speeding off was that he was set up. A question Premel had to have been asked in the first days after the death, "was there anything that Carnaby would consider as a threat to his life."  So when we could have had a great story laid out and told from Premel's perspective we can't. Already ahead of time it is already set up that the man who knew the most and who ran the firm for Carnaby was personally not able to talk, gagged and to remain silent on orders of his matters dealing with the courts.
   
  In my experience most of the people who are whistleblowers and who are out in the public eye making wild accusations are those who are attentions seekers and are seeking approval.  That does not seem to be the case.  We have not seen Premel out anywhere proclaiming his case and the postings we do have from him on sites are that of him saying "this is Alan Premel, this is ridiculous, take this down." And the individuals are usually blaming a government for something and making a voice against them.  We have yet to see any cases of Premel fighting the system and arguing anything.  CIA will never reveal the truth about their organization, their overarching agenda, their "mission", their operations, their personnel, their policies, protocols, affiliations and least of all their raison d'etre.
  

  To reveal the truth would be self-destructive.
   
  CIA philosophy goes something like this: A lie is the truth and the truth is a lie. When the truth is nailed down, simply deny it. Plausible deniabilty is among the most effective tools of tradecraft.  After all, fabricating lies, used to manipulate people, organizations and governments (including their own) by deception, is their stock-in-trade. And unlike most of the self-appointed political pundits, those who call themselves "journalists" and other commentators on CIA. So to protect the assets who are truly covert, would a government go to great lengths to cover up the identities of these men? Would they hide certain facts like their names, faces and the covert companies they worked out of to protect ongoing operations? Would they cover it up to protect targets, sources, methods and officers who are still in the field and not to mention foreign nationals who are aligned with them? Your right, they sure would. Black projects, covert operations and especially concerns and questions about what was going on in Houston and specifically why CIA personnel were in Houston since CIA does not define anything domestically.
   
  So would we really know if individuals are really of a covert nature and covert employment? No way. The truth will never come to light. Except for in this case which it has been reported that FBI, Secret Service, CIA and other representatives from various agencies are stepping up and standing up for Carnaby. I agree with many on this subject that if Roland Carnaby and Alan Premel were both contractors for CIA or NSA that it would not show up on their backgrounds. Say for instance both Carnaby and Premel are traveling from the US to France. Wouldn't you expect the FBI and even police to know who they are? You would if they were regular intelligence officers. Lets consider for a second that they are covert. Would you have the FBI knowing and seeing the status of covert officers. Some would argue that you would. Think about who else would know if the FBI knew.
   
  Any government would know and conversely all of their law enforcement agencies would know. So in saying this, it would mean that everyone would know who your covert officers are. Premel's background fits that perfectly. He is signed up for the USMC, tests into intelligence, has a certificate which was verified as being authentic. Suddenly, he falls off of the radar map and is never heard of again. A decade later emerges from the ruins of a bombshell story about him being tied to CIA activities, cover companies and in his defense presents 580 pictures that were verified as authentic and not photo-shopped. Carnaby also, has 30 years of connections to CIA and comes from a prominent Middle Eastern Shipping family which over 60 years of connections to CIA and the OSS. Not to mention his uncle was an intelligence officer who died while in service.
   
  Guys who are being photographed in and around settings where former CIA Directors and former US Presidents are concerned are legitimate guys. Photographs do not prove anything but they do shed some light onto something that is mysterious for the rest of us.  Roland Carnaby has a legitimate business in Houston with a family shipping business, it has been public knowledge that he has worked in conjunction with many private intelligence firms in Houston and the car that was involved in the high speed chase was registered to the "National Security Command Center."  I don't know what you think but if I went to the DMV to register my car I can tell you that I would be stopped and questioned immediately. And the fact that this man knew James Pavitt and was reported working closely with him with Patriot Oil which was located in Houston, to know that he had close ties with dozens of former high brass CIA officers and distinguished alum is all too real for me. It makes sense.
   
  Alan Premel started a company in Houston called 'Intelligence Kids.'  Officers have verified that they knew what the company was. That he spoke to children at schools on terrorism, intelligence and understanding 9/11.  It was a small business Premel started 2003 after the death of CIA officer Mike Spann, the first CIA operations officer in Afghanistan. It was registered with the county and Premel used his own funds to create t-shirts and prizes for young students. Again, why would someone who is a regular guy have connections to CIA through CIA kids, NSA's crypto-kids and start his own business specifically talking to children on intelligence?  Again, simple, he was something more then we have been told. Intelligence Kids has since been shut down in recent years and is no longer in existence. It seems that these guys were legit and that they even enjoyed giving back to what matters most, children.
  Now there is another story that was floating around about Alan Premel being the former covert comic. Why would a discrediting campaign have tidbits of realism in it? It has to be believable for even the ones who knew him to hold onto and grasp onto. We found out that not only has he checked out with everything else so far and with intelligence kids but that he also checks out with being the former covert comic. Come to find out that Premel is a gifted artist and even when the story went down there are dozens of people who have comics, political cartoons and framed sketches he has done over the years where he was known by that name. So to find out and hear that Premel actually not only drew but wrote for the CIA's 'What's news at CIA' newsletter says a lot considering he is supposed to be a FedEx driver.
   
  Carnaby never had the chance to prove himself with his pictures and they are still held up with his wife pending this case and further investigations. But what about the pictures Premel has come out with that are taken all over the world. NewsFollowUp is still trying to actively get access to them and post them to the site. Through all of this we are not only seeing that there is more to the story but seeing what happens when someone in a covert job setting is turned inside out. Premel has done a number of interviews which are no where to be found on the internet as well as the disappearing Carnaby articles that are being locked up by the family. So the next time you see a discrediting piece on one of these former officers lets read into it more and not get caught up in the government cover-up and disinformation. I am starting to realize one thing. That these guys were real, that they were involved with CIA and that there is more to the story.

• Notes:  Intelligence Community  What is the IC? The IC is short and is what we would call the Intelligence Community. Generally, its one of the first things an officer will say if they are attached to an agency. The IC is a broad scale approach to cover. CIA personnel will normally say the IC or State Department since state cover is very common for case officers. They actually work for someone greater as a security contractor. So generally what they would say in a circumstance is that they are a private security contractor, gov contractor for a private security firm specializing in security and threat analysis. Typically what it is. This person is not an ops person or a field officer. All of their experience with being former military intel "01", and a spook is tied to another agency as a computer specialist. So its a broad range and can be IT, some kind of tech support or communications person when in fact they dealt with compromising systems and now have a second life working with a firm going into companies and exposing holes after other security companies have come in and said its safe. They are the type of guys who are good enough and experienced enough to compromise gov networks, systems and platforms that are higher than regular platforms    ....    Usually when someone says they are IC, they are usually consultants who are all 50-60 years of age. Retirees picking up a 2nd life for benefit reasons or because they are extremely valuable and are not yet ready for retirement fulltime.  So a lot of times you can get clearances, have SCI (compartmentalized specialty or specific clearance) for the IC and not for CIA. So you can work for them and get a CIA contract. There are 3 types of contracts at CIA for contractors.    ...    So a good example would be coming in as an IC member where it is not a cover job and you just show up as a member of the US Intelligence Community but not tied to a specific branch. You can be a gov contractor for NASA and not fit into the IC. How is this possible? Because NASA is not apart of the 16 agencies within the IC. So you see that a lot. And when you have clearances. You could be in a large Russian office for example which is huge. Say for example there are 1000 people in that office through the entire IC. For each agency, they have liason and "Advisors" actually they are joint IC advisors who work in conjunction with all the agencies on whatever the specific task is. So you could be in a Russian office with a high clearance. CNWDE is a clearance for weapons and nuclear material. So you could be a scientist or former scientist working with the IC or an analyst covering Weapons of mass destruction of proliferation and have a CNWDE clearance.  N6161Q N713M N7241E N7369S N861CM N9216Q N933PB N960BW N961BW N962BW N963BW N204FN N964BW N965BW  Now, just say the clearances are 1-15, and 15 is the highest level accessible in that office. You could have a CNWDE level 15 clearance and still not be able to look at counter intelligence intelligence, you would not have access to databases on certain gov, military and political persons.  

   

• Wayne Madsen Report May 20, 2008 -- Carnaby had access inside the Israeli Prime Minister's office publication date: May 20, 2008 Previous | Next
• May 20, 2008 -- Carnaby had access inside the Israeli Prime Minister's office
• Roland Carnaby, the one-time CIA Station Chief for the Southeast Region, headquartered in Houston, had sources inside the office of Israel's Prime Minister. A source who knew Carnaby said the agent, killed by Houston police on April 29, had a certificate of appreciation personally signed by former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. The certificate was embossed with the seal of the HaMossad leModi'in v'leTafkidim Meyuhadim  the Mossad.
• Carnaby maintained close links to Israeli intelligence and sponsored and vouched for a number of Israeli security contractors who wanted to provide services to the George Bush International Airport in Houston. However, it is now clear that Carnaby obtained knowledge about Israeli and Bush administration plans to start a Middle East conflagration that was enough for elements inside the Bush White House, Israeli intelligence, and their contacts inside the Houston Police Department to have him assassinated.
• On May 6, 2008, WMR reported: WMR has learned from its Middle East intelligence sources that a leak from the office of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office resulted in the last minute scuttling of an Israeli intelligence operation in Beirut that would have started a series of events that would have likely resulted in the outbreak of warfare between Israel and Lebanon, Syria, and possibly, between Iran and the United States. 
• Israel's Mossad planned an April 25 assassination, likely by its favorite method, a massive car bomb, of Lebanese Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Because the assassination would have triggered the "perfect storm" for the outbreak of war in Lebanon, with the involvement of Israel, the United States, Syria, and Iran, an official in Olmert's office leaked the assassination plan. When it became apparent that there was a leak, Mossad scuttled the entire operation.
• The plan was immediately known by the CIA and Hezbollah. It is known that retired CIA officer and contractor Roland Carnaby, a Lebanese-American, had close contact with all of Lebanon's various factions. On April 29, four days after the planned assassination of Nasrallah by Mossad, Carnaby was killed in broad daylight by Houston police. WMR previously reported that Carnaby had successfully penetrated a Mossad ring active in the Houston area.
• WMR has learned from CIA sources in Lebanon that Carnaby maintained a close link to retired Lebanese General Michael Aoun, a major Christian leader who has allied his party to Hezbollah and its leader Hassan Nasrallah. Aoun was once considered an ally of Israel but broke his ties after Israel's devastating sneak attack on Lebanon in 2006.
• It is likely that Carnaby was the nexus that served to pass the leak from Olmert's office to Aoun and then to Nasrallah. It was the plan for a U.S. and Israeli assault on Lebanon following Nasrallah's assassination that prompted the Hezbollah leader to carry out a show of force against the pro-US government of Prime Minister Fuad Siniora. Plans by the United States and Israel to attack Lebanon would have been coordinated with a military assault on Syria and eventually, Iran.
• Carnaby was very close to former President George H. W. Bush, who WMR has been told is adamantly opposed to any U.S. military strike on Lebanon, Syria, or Iran. Although the senior Bush is beginning to suffer symptoms associated with Alzheimer's, it is also known that he has worked behind the scenes to stop further U.S. military attacks in the Middle East.
• Carnaby was so close to the elder Bush that while at a Houston restaurant, the elder Bush, after spotting Carnaby at the bar having a drink with a friend, jumped up, ran over to Carnaby, and warmly embraced him. Bush is also reportedly incensed at Carnaby's shooting by the police and he has blamed the neocons who have infiltrated his son's administration for the death of his friend.
• The elder Bush resents the heavy hand dealt by Vice President Dick Cheney to Syria's President Bashar Assad. Bush still recalls that it was Assad's father, Hafez Assad, who contributed troops for Operation Desert Storm against Assad's fellow rival Baathist Saddam Hussein. Bush also was appreciative that Bashar Assad's intelligence chief helped take out Hezbollah's military commander Imad Mugniyah in a Damascus car bombing in February. Mugniyah was blamed for the kidnapping and torture execution of CIA Beirut station chief William Buckley in 1985. Buckley was Carnaby's boss in Lebanon and Bush, as Vice President, was coordinating America's counter-terrorism program.
• WMR has also discovered that before the planned assassination of Nasrallah on April 25, Carnaby was talking on his cell phone at a Houston restaurant. The patrons of the restaurant were startled to hear the mild mannered Carnaby began shouting in the phone, yelling "Who the hell ordered that?" and pounding the table. Those who knew Carnaby thought it was out of character but also knew that something serious was going on.
• It is also known that Carnaby, fearful of a U.S. war with Iran, wanted to leave the CIA. He was reportedly very nervous, behavior described by a friend as "skittish," during the week before his death. WMR has also learned from a reliable source that Carnaby had information that he was trying to get to Washington the morning that he was killed. The Houston police impounded Carnaby's laptop computer, which contained details on a CIA non-official cover (NOC) network tasked with protecting U.S. and foreign ports from terrorist attacks and the smuggling of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). That network, like Valerie Plame Wilson's Brewster Jennings & Associates non-official cover firm that tracked the proliferation of WMDs, may have been compromised to Mossad, which is considered by the CIA to be a hostile intelligence agency that seeks to damage U.S. national security.

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